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✿ ([personal profile] corknut) wrote2010-02-04 03:51 pm
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[identity profile] pinkhairedcutie.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
At first, I was like, "Wow! Hannah likes Capcom!!" But then I thought, "Weird. Why is the entry tagged 'avatar'?"

Two seconds later... yeah. XD

About the trailer, well, it actually looked good to me. But then again, all they showed were fight scenes pretty much. And as the trope says, 'Never Trust A Trailer'.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
XD Yeah, I don't know anything about Capcom. Or video games in general, really. It is a video game company, right?

Ohhhhh yes, sometimes it seems like trailers are pretty much MADE to be deceiving. I really like the set in this one, though (not so sure about some of the costuming, but eh).

tldr;

[identity profile] pinkhairedcutie.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, yep. And they have a tendency of doing crazy crossovers with their characters and others (like in the commercial).

As for the trailer, I do agree with you on the scenery...and the Sokka-Katara hugging under the lantern thing was a nice touch. But I am still cautious about this movie. I loved Avatar since the day it premiered and I just. Love. It. 'Nuff said.

I didn't think a Live Action adaptation was necessary since the series did so well in re-enacting the martial arts from real life into animation. And I was pissed at the white-washing of the cast.

Not because it lacked an Asian cast. But because I think a cast of different multi-cultural people would have been better. The show has people of different races and it serves as a nice visual reminder that the nations are made up of many cultures. For Katara and Sokka maybe some kids of Alaskan descent, Native American, or even African American might have been a better fit than two suburban white kids. Aang...can pass off as caucasian, imo, but I do hope the kid portraying him balances his light heartedness and seriousness well. And Zuko... ::Sigh:: Well, at least he's not Jesse McCartney... I just hope the Indian culture translates well into Fire Nation, which it could.

Maybe they can redeem themselves if they cast Toph as an Asian girl for Book II... Somehow I doubt they will.

Re: tldr;

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean. :\ I don't feel a lot out ~*OUTRAGE*~ at the casting like I know a lot of people do, but I do think it's pretty lame. Though Jesse McCartney would have been hilarious and if the movie sucks I'll probably be sad that they didn't cast him, just because I'd rather have funny!fail than just plain... fail!fail.

I honestly would much rather have seen new animated movies as opposed to just a live-action retelling, but eh. They're gonna do what they're gonna do, so.

[identity profile] terpzilla.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Iyaaaa, they replicated the opening scene! 8D But it still cut too much to be able to tell stuff. Now I wonder how long this movie will be since they seemed to have everything up the the season 1 finale and some earthbending in there (dunno if that was Toph, though).

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
... They did? I didn't even notice that. /goes back to watch

Yeah, I don't know how much it's supposed to cover. My guess is that they're planning on having three movies for the three books, but I haven't been religiously following movie news or anything so I could be wrong.

[identity profile] terpzilla.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think so! I'm guessing from that shot of Sokka holding Katara under the lantern, from the first episode (or pilot?).

Me neither; it seems pretty enough, but besides the whitewash I'm kind of skeptical about how well McKnight Shamallama can work with martial arts, plus the ending of the series left me so disappoint I sort of haven't looked back. XD;

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
OH that; I thought you meant they like... recreated the whole thing, to which I was thinking, "... clearly I need less shitty observation skills 8|". XD

Yyyyyeah, I think the set will be AMAZING, but I don't have the highest hopes for everything else. What I really want is a spin-off about Zuko going to find Ursa, the Gaang trying to stabilize the post-war world, and Azula discovering an interdimensional internet community. 8(

[identity profile] century-fox.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Not gonna lie, when I first heard about the movie Avatar (the 3D one), I thought it was talking about a Last Airbender movie XD

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
XD I know a lot of people thought that. I get mixed up too now; when people mention "Avatar" I have to be like, "WAIT, WHICH ONE?"

[identity profile] century-fox.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, me too! :P

[identity profile] raserei-hojo.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
It looks pretty. Doesn't tell me much about the plot though, which I find most important.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
It would be for me, but I don't have much in the way of expectations for the movie, so I'm just focusing on the "HOLY SHIT THE FIRE NATION SHIPS LOOK AWESOME" aspect. XD

[identity profile] raserei-hojo.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
I generally tend to have low expectations of movies these days. Especially after the whole Eragon fiasco. :|

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Ahaha Eragon. I LOVED THE DRAGON WHEN SHE WAS A BABY, but that was about it. Then again, I didn't think much of the book either, so that probably colored my opinion a little.

Most of the movies that I end up loving are ones that came out years ago. :\ The only new movie that's turned out to be one of my favorites is The Lovely Bones, and most people seem to disagree with me on that one. WE NEED MORE AWESOME NEW MOVIES.

[identity profile] raserei-hojo.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I liked the books. I mean, they weren't AWESOME but... I thought if the movie followed the book even a LITTLE it would have been awesome. It's VERY VERY LOOSELY BASED on the book, weep.

Ahh, The Lovely Bones. I want to see that. Along with My Sister's Keeper. :|b

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember much of the movie that wasn't Jeremy Irons. XD

I liked My Sister's Keeper too! But I thought The Lovely Bones was better. Did you read either of the books?

[identity profile] raserei-hojo.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yes I did. Which is why I want to see the movies. |D

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
:D I liked them both, especially My Sister's Keeper. The ending of The Lovely Bones was pretty sketch imho, though.

[identity profile] super-pineapple.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
You know the best part?
YOU CAN SEE APPA. AND HE LOOKS RIGHT!!!

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
... I think I missed that. HOW DID I MISS THAT.

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They're going to ruin Azula.  Other than that, I have no vested interest in the movie.  I never liked cartoon-to-live-action adaptations, except for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't wait to see what her live-action counterpart is like, actually. XD

I don't really have much interest in it either, but I'm sure I'll still end up seeing it. I still don't really get why they feel the need to make a live-action adaptation, though. The cartoon was fine on it's own!

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I admire your optimism.  I dread it.  I selfishly hope there won't be a chance for a movie!Azula.  :(  No actor can match the cartoon character.  I think there can and should be only one Azula.  Should there be a second movie, we'll have to specify which version of Azula we like/RP/are talking about, and I can't look forward to that.  :\

Exactly!  Just think: instead of this movie, there's a chance we would've gotten those three 90-minute animated specials, instead.  It would've been a win-win for everyone.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yesssss. I would have loved to see the animated specials. Now that I think of it, though, weren't those separate from the movie? As in, the fact that there's a movie doesn't mean we'll definitely never get them! /o/

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Same!

I believe they were completely separate from the movie, but we didn't need the movie.  We would've been fine without it...

If the animated specials had been made in lieu of the movie, this fandom would be more unified, no doubt about it.  The story didn't need to be converted to live-action; I think the fact that they did it cheapens the source material... like a cartoon wasn't "good enough" for such an epic tale, and it had to be redone with "real" people.  So I won't be spending money to see it for that reason, among others.

I'm hoping the specials will somehow end up being made, but the prospects look doubtful.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? :| I generally tend to like live-action movies/shows better than animation, but that doesn't mean I feel that all animated things would be ~*made better*~ if they were filmed instead of drawn.

How do you think it would unify the fandom, exactly?

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
So right.  While it may or may not have been a driving factor in creating the movie, it still comes across that way.  Avatar: The Last Airbender was, is, and will continue to be an astoundingly good cartoon... why couldn't it be left that way?  The movie is going to taint the show's reputation because of all the problems associated with its production ( and perhaps the final product itself ), perceived or real.

I can't say with any certainty that the animated specials would unify the entire fandom, but the level of excitement would likely be higher than it is for the movie.  Animated specials would mean several things: canon extensions of the story itself, direct involvement by Bryke, the return of our beloved voice actors, the characters' appearances retaining familiarity through animation and design... things that the movie has none of.  The specials would arguably be more authentically Avatar than the live-action production.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm yeah I see what you mean. It would be nice to have the fandom be a) more alive and b) less wanky, both at the same time. :\

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.  Aside from movie-talk, the fandom has seemingly vanished, except for occasional 'shipping-wank flareups.  Is this the fate of such a magnificent cartoon?  :\

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I hate shipping wank so much. DX

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I do, too, but some people are determined to argue.  Because the show is over, so is plot/characterization speculation, so all fans can seem to do nowadays is argue about what "should" have happened romantically.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Exactlyyyyyy. People should just let others have their opinions. XD

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
That's... a little too much to expect from this fandom.  There's no such thing as "'ship and let 'ship" ( the equivalent of "live and let live" ).  People are still going on about how Zuko should've chosen Katara over Mai, how Katara is a pedo for kissing Aang, how Kataang is superior to everything because Bryke stated it was in the DNA of the show, how Suki should've died so Sokka could've been paired with [insert girl here]... it doesn't end.

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'll ship and let ship, at least. XD I'm not a huge shipper, anyway.

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hah, I know you're sane.  <3  Just Tyzula, rite?

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much! XD I like Mai/Zuko too, but I'm not really interested enough to go searching for fanfic or anything. Not that I read much fanfic in the first place buuuuuuuuuut

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, I get what you're saying.  I believe you once said you also like Ursa/Ozai to some degree?

[identity profile] banerry.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, that too! I'm generally just... pretty zen about most ships. XD

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome.  You realize how rare that zen is in our fandom, right?  In many ways, you're quite special!  :D

[identity profile] fire-lord-azula.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
You're quite welcome.  <3